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The histology report said "mild chronic gastritis associated with occasional helicobacter organism on the surface"

Given my acidity symptoms and evidence of helicobacter on the surface I assume that it must be active

Another strange think in my case is that in the first endoscopy in October 2020 helicobacter was found but no gastritis. Now both have been found which probably explains to some extent the probable cause of my symptoms

Reinfection may be a possibility. I think very few ppl are prone to reinfection and even fewer are extremely sensitive to reinfection. Did you have the endoscopy after you've done all those blood tests and h pylori tests?

I can usually tell when I get reinfection from h pylori. Diarrhea sometimes during the first day...but usually stomach burning the next day which subsides after a few days thus becoming a chronic thing. As of now, I can tell im h pylori free, finished 14-day triple therapy and feeling great, little if no reflux, can sing and eat a lot more stuff without stomach burning and so on. Other issues have improved as well. No longer have lactose intolerance but it's going to take a few months to fully recover I believe.

Today a friend came to visit he leaned over me to show me a message to his phone and was speaking in my face right when I was eating..I take ZERO chances. Grabbed coconut oil and took antibiotics....I dont think you have to go that extreme but you can see how easy it is for me to get reinfection (2021 reinfection my uncle took my toothbrush...I used it without knowing...next few days...u can guess what happened). It may be due to a low state of acid...you need a really good stomach with lots of acids to be more resistant to h pylori.

This is all theory of course. I would just be extremely careful of contact with people and utensils.

[AMERC]

Hi

Yes I had all those negative tests before the endoscopy last month

Since the first infection in June 2020 and subsequent 2 separate 7 days triple therapy treatment I had a few months of relative calmness but never been truly free of acid reflux symptoms. Of late the pain and discomfort had increased a lot so got the second endoscopy done which fond h pylori organism on the surface of the sample taken for biopsy. . So I am not sure if I was ever fully free of h pylori.

I looks like.the bug was always there. Hopefully this time the 14 day triple therapy Treatment will kill it completely

[photon]

Well Im h pylori free now and still have symptoms so its normal to have symptoms after eradicating the bacteria. In my case it takes up to 6 months of being h pylori free to get back to normal (no symptoms). Ever since 2014...I could not go 6 months without reinfection until 2017 hit then I had no reinfection until 2020 (no symptoms at all for almost 2.5 years).

I believe h pylori surviging abx treatments its rare especially if you've done several and correctly, it is possible you have been getting reinfected in the past right after you finished abx treatments and you never got 100% better bc you never been h pylori free for several months for the stomach to fully recover.

If you want to really recover, you have to think about the source of infection for you. It may be people close to you, the water, the vegetables (what water they use to irrigate vegetables) street food...who knows? I found out in my case...it was the people in my family and/or the water. Everyone in my family has h pylori, they all complain of symptoms. I moved out but still had reinfections so I figured it was also the water so I completely moved out of that city.

The only times Ive been h pylori free was when I lived in the cpaital of my country (GOOD areas witih high quality water).

I think some people are prone to reinfection especially if they have a low acid stomach. Most are NOT prone to reinfection. What's funny to me is that I never had COVID to this date...yet I had several h pylori reinfections from 2020-2022.

It's just a possibility you may also have a super resistant h pylori. Next treamtn I'd suggest you add kefir to the treatment and broccoli sprouts, and lots of other stuff that have shown on paper to kill h pylori (bismuth , coconut oil) to maximize your chances.

Im free of h pylori now like I said and it's only worked bc I'm living alone away from that water contaminated city.

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Forgot to add...after you've confirmed h pylori eradication. You may want to take preventive measure to prevent reinfection...maybe eat yogurt daily (its shown to POSSIBLY protect against h pylori reinfection) and vitamin D daily (shown on papers to POSSIBLY have protective properties).

Good luck friend and do not be afraid of this bacteria, once eradicated, things go back to normal. It's one of the few things in the world that are actually 100% curable

[AMERC]

Thanks

No one in my family has any symptoms. So I don't think it's in the family.

Infact in the last 2 years I have had 3 stool tests, one breath test and an antibodies blood test all negative for h pylori but given the symptoms I had second endoscopy done last month with found mild chronic gastritis associated with occasional helicobacter on the surface.

If the third 14 days antibiotics plus ppi treatment dose not work I am not sure what will

[AMERC]

Hi photon

How did you find out that you were h pylori free and how did you also find out that you were reinfected. What were and are your symptoms?

HelicoExpert - do you need to have a particular bacterial load in the stomach to have a positive breath or stool test? I mean could it be that my bacterial load is so small that both stool and breath tests were negative but histology saw the actual bacteria (Assuming that the pathologist knew what it was)

Despite the negative blood test, Stool test and breath tests given my on and off gastric symptoms plus evidence of mild chronic gastritis that too in the antral area and visibility of occasional helicobacter in the tissue sample suggests that it is still in my system

I have completed my 14 days triple therapy course today but not feeling much different. In my case the doctor say endoscopy is the only way to confirm complete eradication