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Re: Best treatment after failures

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I cant think of a reason why you cannot take it together with antibiotics. Nevertheless, I am not experienced with silybum marianum. It is best you ask your doctor about it.

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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Where is it that you live, if I may ask? Typically after two failures, the best way forward is to have your HP cultured for a custom antibiotic treatment your HP strain is susceptible to. Literature shows a near 100% eradication rate using this method.

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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tzj wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:58 am
Where is it that you live, if I may ask? Typically after two failures, the best way forward is to have your HP cultured for a custom antibiotic treatment your HP strain is susceptible to. Literature shows a near 100% eradication rate using this method.
Brazil, the doctor could've asked a culture, but, it seems that he was not very good, as i said he prescribed a therapy with moxifloxacin and omeprazole only. I found a better doctor, but the lab didnt keep the sample from biopsy, then he prescribed the third line therapy. I read some articles and mostly shows a cure rate of 95% or higher with quadruple therapy, lets see, today is the 3rd day

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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sorry, i am not familiar with silybum marianum. I did a quick search and found no interaction with antibiotics. However, most antibiotics require liver to metabolised. Perhaps you should ask your doctor. He is responsible for what is prescribed to you.

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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Helico_expert wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:20 pm
sorry, i am not familiar with silybum marianum. I did a quick search and found no interaction with antibiotics. However, most antibiotics require liver to metabolised. Perhaps you should ask your doctor. He is responsible for what is prescribed to you.
thanks, he told me to take because of the hepatogram, i was feeling a very strong dizziness and tiredness even taking only pantoprazole, he said that i should take with the antibiotics to protect the liver, and it really helped with the dizziness.

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supple ... t-20362885
I found this article, it list as a possible interaction

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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I guess as long as your doctor approves it.
so what antibiotics are you given?

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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Helico_expert wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:44 pm
I guess as long as your doctor approves it.
so what antibiotics are you given?
Flagyl 400mg every 8h and tetraciclyne every 6h, plus bismuth and PPI. Silybum marianum(forfig)he told me to take 1 capsule(140mg) with lunch.

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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That's the good treatment. It has a cure rate of over 90%. Do keep us posted if Silybum marianum does any help.

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Re: Best treatment after failures

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Well, today is the 7th day on antibiotics and the stomach burning and reflux are getting stronger, even a few hours after taking the PPI dose, can this reduce the effect of the antibiotics? (im taking PPI 3x a day as you reccomended)

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