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nausea and fatigue

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sameer1144
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Re: nausea and fatigue

Post by sameer1144 »

Hello everyone,
Iam Sameer. I was detected H.pylori positive 2 years ago. Plus my B12 was low as hell.Normal should be say between 500-1000(something-don’t know the term) mine was 94..yes just 94. Don’t know for how long it was and hopw much damage it had done to my nervous system since I was also had the feeling of fainting(though I never fainted). Anywa when B12 reports came I was horrified and doctors were worried.
They put me on antibiotics for H.pylori and B12 shots for B12 deficiency.
I started the antibiotics course thinking I would be healed after completing the course..but I did not. I mean I check again if the eradication was successful and I did get H.pylori negative.I was somewhat relieved. But I was not well at all. I fealt like I was dying. Lost my weight A LOT.
Side by side I was taking the shots doctors increased my B12 shot ‘gap’ by say once per month.
I was feeling a lot of anxiety and weekness..I mean all the symptoms which a B12 deficient patient feels.
But after taking the shots my anxiety went down somehow… and doctors then put me on B12 tablets instead of B12 injections.
But my anxiety did not go completely..dont know why. I checked my B12 level and it was good. Say around 850. But I was feeling like hell.Couldnt eat spicy…greasy…oily…no non veg no egg yellow nothing. Very very very strict diet. Life was hell…all flavours from life went off. Just one remained …. ‘BOILED’ food..thats it.
I used to go to the doctor and complaint about my condition and he used to say me alls in my head…well I was annoyed everytime I went for him for my shit condition and he used to say alls in my head… I changed many doctors all said all was in my head.Some laughed it of and told me to continue my PPI. My IBS was all flared up. Had to watch out whatever I eat. Antibiotics destroyed my digestion.
Well to cut the story short meanwhile I got transfer letter from my job front for 4 months. There I met an doctor army officer were I was posted because of my job and as we discussed and talked we became friends. He saw the hell Iam going through. Well he gave me some paste or say mixture of herbs which was kind of sweet and pungent and told me to have one teaspoon everyday after each meal. For 3 months I did that everyday thinking theres nothing to loose and life cant be bad than this so I just took it blindly and well Iam i think first one here to tell that Iam totally healed after h.pylori. I can eat spicy stuff fatty stuff everything.No binding...nothing. I mean even I didnt knew when I started to eat and feel normal. I mean Iam my old self now. I just cant believe.I thought to tell you people that we can get alright..like before. If you wanna know further and more contact me on my email sameeranuj2(at)gmail.com. Iam always available and open to help you my friends.I know how this shit bug does to our system. Even I was very hopeless and had accepted to live my life like that.Many times I used to cry a lot. I used to fell theres no way out from here. But this paste the army doctor gave me has changed my life...no IBS no pain...No nausea.. No burning nothing but offcourse it took me 3 months to achieve complete recovery. I after so many years ate tomato sauce with chicken burger few days ago and Iam alright. Iam so happy that its over.
Any of you guys want to know more or want help or wanna get alright let me know. I will be more than happy to help you guys,
its not mastic gum nor manuka honey. Its Ayurvedic Medicine one of the many ingredients it has is broccoli…which has anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory response.Its absolutely safe. Iam not taking it now because by Gods grace Iam alright.
Last edited by sameer1144 on Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Helico_expert
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Re: nausea and fatigue

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Can you write down the recipe? I think that will help more people than contacting you privately.

sameer1144
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Re: nausea and fatigue

Post by sameer1144 »

Hello ,
Well I don’t mind mentioning over here and even asked the doctor about the same but he said/suggested that the ingredients which are put in the mixture may not be available in some countries and substitutes wont work so effectively and the MOST IMPORTANT IS may change the overall chemical formula of the mixture which we don’t want.
But roughly the ingredients are say orange saffron-helpful for making new blood…. new ripe Beal fruit which has anti-inflammatory and anti-bacterial properties(so even if any of the H.pylori is remaining it will die off) and which is THE BEST and THE MOST important ingredient in the mixture. Beal is best for gastrointestinal troubles..INCLUDING IBS. I also had severe IBS and it went off. Don’t know how IBS went off because it’s a functional disorder but still it did…I myself don’t know. Earlier when I had stress in life or if I ate something which did go well with my system…I was dead for 3-4 days with IBS. Mucus and pain and nausea head ache what not….it was hell. But now I don’t suffer anymore. Beal regulates the whole system. Then another ingredient is say… sandalwood fine powder which has best cooling effect(maybe the cool feeling I used to get when I used to take the mixture is mainly because of that)….then shankha powder good that too for cooling and regulates acid secretion so that we can let go of those PPIs. Then maybe I think I heard Moti powder say fine pearl powder and other say 8 - 9 other ingredients. ALL NATURAL INGREDIENTS..maybe our ancestors used to take and use these things to get rid of H.Pylori before antibiotics were found…
These are some of the ingredients I heard of from the doctor and remember of. Rest if anyone needs help they can contact me on my email sameeranuj2(at)gmail.com
If anyone wants the mixture please let me know….Its free of any charge. Iam doing it because I know how bad H.pylori is and I was there. Its hell.
I consider my duty to give something back to the society so Iam doing it. Earlier when I got alright I just thought to not share anything with anyone because I was so afraid and unsecured that H.Pylori had made me and my life horrible. I thought not to talk about anything with anyone and just lead my improved life. That’s it.
But as days passed by and as I became more and more brave towards my H.pylori phase of my life and when I came across people suffering horribly,,,… I decided why not to share and help people.
ITS MY GUARANTEE OVER HERE THAT USING THIS THING EVERYONES IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT…GOD BLESS EVERYONE.



Helico_expert wrote:Can you write down the recipe? I think that will help more people than contacting you privately.

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Re: nausea and fatigue

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Summary

orange saffron
ripe Beal fruit
sandalwood fine powder
shankha powder
Moti powder
fine pearl powder
and other say 8 - 9 other ingredients

Do you have a estimate volume/mass of each of those ingredient?

by the way, if you want to check if it really has antibacterial effect on H. pylori, you can send to my lab and we'll do a quick test for you. But you'll have to provide a detail components of your mixture. or else it will be a wasteful experiment.

Raj567890
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Re: nausea and fatigue

Post by Raj567890 »

Thank you very much by Helico_expert for answering my question. I most sincerely appreciate it. :)
You say
"in your case, it is best to do antibiotic sensitivity test to find out exactly what antibiotics to be used. Because you have taken multiple triple and quadruple therapies in the past, it is likely that your bacteria is resistant to multiple antibiotics. Try discuss that option with your specialist"
This is prudent advice--thanks! I will most certainly ask the gastroenterologist I will be going to,2 very important questions:
1) he HAS to do biopsy during endoscopy to enable the pathologist to detect H pylori/any other infection
2) The pathologist HAS to culture the H .Pylori and then perform antibiotic sensitivity test
If the pathologist is not able to culture the H pylori I will be left at the discretion of the gastroenterologist and he will have to GUESS which antibiotics combo will be best--- this in my opinion is SPECULATION and I do NOT wish to rely on SPECULATION but on SOLID EVIDENCE arising out of antibiotic sensitivity test---which will tell us which antibiotics is the bacteria MOST Sensitive to.
But I wonder how many pathologists perform H pylori culture and sensitivity test. dear and kind Helico_expert, can you please tell me if you know about labs in and around LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA, where H PYLORI culture can be done?
Please also let me know if I am on the right track by reading what I have written in this post. Do you think I need to ask/tell the gastroenterologist anything else?
Thanks much in advance Helico_expert :)

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Re: nausea and fatigue

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1) Yes, a biopsy has to be collected during endoscopy in order for pathologist to examine it under histology. Histology will tell you the degree of inflammation, see the bacteria, see the abnormality of the cells, etc.

2) Yes, the microbiologist will have to culture the bacteria in order to test the effectiveness of the antibiotics. A good pathology laboratory should be able to culture H. pylori with no problem. Our lab has a culture rate of >90%. If unfortunately your lab failed to culture the bacteria, then your specialist will have to try his antibiotic combination blindly. Usually he'll use a rare antibiotic so the chance of resistance is low.

I am sorry that I cannot advise you a pathology lab in Los Angeles California. Hopefully someone else in this forum will be able to recommend someone to you. Mean while, you can ask me any questions you want so you have better discussion with your specialist.

Raj567890
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Re: nausea and fatigue

Post by Raj567890 »

thank you helico_expert for your diligent advice. I truly appreciate it. I thank you guys and the legendary Dr. Barry Marshall for setting this forum up. This is such a noble task! what would we desperate h.pylori sufferers do without this forum and the advise we get from you! Thank you thank you!
I am travelling to India next month and have at least four or five top gastroenterologists there. It would be much easier for me to get endoscopy and biopsy done there rather than in USA where its frightfully expensive. my question to you helico_expert is : are you aware of ANY GOOD PATHOLOGY lab in India which performs the H PYLORI CULTURE. because if India doesn't do it its meaningless for me to leave it at the gastroenterologists' guess what antibiotics will work and which won't. I have had about five courses over there years ---and don't wish to rely anymore on conjecture and speculation, BUT rather on sure-shot thing like BIOPSYAND HPYLORI CULTURE for determining the bacterial sensitivity to antibiotics ---- if the culture is actually obtained and the sensitivity test reveals the names of the antibiotics this darn bacteria is sensitive to, I have not a shred of doubt that the h.pylori will be eradicated without a problem
So do you know any pathology lab in India which cultures the H pylori helico_expert?
I am desperate for healing helico_expert :(

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Re: nausea and fatigue

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unfortunately I do not know any laboratory in India. I think you better give the specialist a phone call and discuss the possibility of the antibiotic sensitivity test before going.

sameer1144
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Re: nausea and fatigue

Post by sameer1144 »

.Well hello people Iam back Iam Sameer and Iam here to clarify and make some changes to my previous posts were I said that the paste is free of costs…well it was free of costs earlier because I had few samples left with me but I sent to people and the samples are finish now. If anyone wants or is interested the doctor has to make more and then I can send them. I/We cant afford to send them for free now because of the huge response we got plus big shipping costs and all natural ingredients going in it. Everyday nearly 4-5 emails come to me inquiring about the paste and atleast 2 of those want the paste anyhow.
The paste is real good and heals us completely and not even a single person I have sent the paste to have posted any negative response anywere on internet. Absolutely no complaints from him/her.
We are not any business house nor it is my business it is just that I found the paste/mixture to be effective so posted it sent to some people and they too got well...so it made my belief more strong towards the mixture..
And hereinafter too we are sending the paste/mixture to the interested ones without any profit. Actually I was to stop sending the paste after the samples finished from my side but looking at the responses from people and reading their sufferings and people requesting is desperately… I have decided to help them at no profit no loss.
But yes let me add one thing very confidently that if the paste/mixture does not suit anyone or does not heal anyone and if it does not make them like before they got h.pylori I WILL RETURN THE MONEY INCLUDING SHIPPING.THATS MY WORD.
Thankyou….

Regards ,
Sameer
sameeranuj2(at)gmail.com

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Re: nausea and fatigue

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Iam James Hill and iam 68yrs old from Atlanta.
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