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Helico bactery symptoms

The various unpleasant manifestations of Helicobacter can be described here. Remember however that the great majority of persons with Hp have no symptoms that they are aware of and consider themselves normal.

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not too sure about the irritation in your throat. perhaps your throat is a bit sensitive to the gel.

the treatment is pretty strong. But you are feeling better may be because of the PPI, reducing the acid and keeping the bacteria number low.

So, get a follow up stool test a month later after stopping all medication.

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Re: Helico bactery symptoms

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Helico_expert wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:58 am
not too sure about the irritation in your throat. perhaps your throat is a bit sensitive to the gel.

the treatment is pretty strong. But you are feeling better may be because of the PPI, reducing the acid and keeping the bacteria number low.

So, get a follow up stool test a month later after stopping all medication.
Hello, i was yesterday to other specialist and he told me that treatment was good, he even said that he giving lower number of antibotics then therapy that i took and he recommended me now to take nolplaza (pantoprazol) 1x in morning for next 14 days

Thank you a lot for all responds, you helped me a lot

Today i feel so better, without throat irritation,just a bit reflux after eating something( but a lot lower) and i feel a a bit pain under left rib and on up side of left pelvis and a bit on left side of back

Is it normal to feel them after therapy? But pains and reflux are a lot smaller then before therapy and in shorter episodes

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Glad that you find this forum helpful.

as you gradually heal, the "episodes" will gradually become less frequent.

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Helico_expert wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:13 pm
Glad that you find this forum helpful.

as you gradually heal, the "episodes" will gradually become less frequent.
Big love for you brother

Last day it was without pain in upper abdominal and above pelvis, but today when i woke up, i felt them when i turned myself on side :(

I cant wait to them dissapear, because i m so tired of this

I m currently taking 1 x pantoprazol 40 mg every morning , should i take 2x of them till my stomach heal or i can continue with this dosage

And i m always hungry now :lol:

Do you know about oregano oil? And should i use it after i finish ppi? Or i should wait to complete test and then use it

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if you find 1x 40mg PPI not good enough, you can try 2x 20mg, or change to other PPI, such as rabeprazole.

multiple dose of PPI works better than single dose.

Also, it's common to feel hungry after HP eradication. as your stomach is gradually becomes better, your acid starts coming back, so you'll feel hungry. many patients gain weight after HP eradication.

I am not familiar with oregano oil. But I assume they are natural product and regarded as safe. You can take them if you feel that it makes you better.

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Re: Helico bactery symptoms

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Helico_expert wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:29 am
if you find 1x 40mg PPI not good enough, you can try 2x 20mg, or change to other PPI, such as rabeprazole.

multiple dose of PPI works better than single dose.

Also, it's common to feel hungry after HP eradication. as your stomach is gradually becomes better, your acid starts coming back, so you'll feel hungry. many patients gain weight after HP eradication.

I am not familiar with oregano oil. But I assume they are natural product and regarded as safe. You can take them if you feel that it makes you better.
Hey doc, i wanted to ask when i tested on blood for hpylori it was negative and then 10 days after i used stool test it gets positive

Does that mean that i didnt have a hyplori ever before this time?

I m talking about testing before therapy, not now

I m now waiting 4 weeks after antibiotics and ppi to test again, i was just curious does it mean that i didnt have it for a long time right? Then i would be positive blood and stool right?


Here are results from me : Image

It says all <20 is negative
And above 25 is positive

And doc last days i felt okay, but yesterday i was reading some stupid articles about serious conditions caused by hpylori and i dreamed bad and woke up with a bit of pain under left rib
I literally woke up so anxious and i felt cold, beside that i feel good, i work whole day without tiredness and i can eat okay with really low acid, but this boring pains giving me so much anxiety that i cant explain you

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Re: Helico bactery symptoms

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Very interesting results.
The serology result probably means you had H. pylori before.
The stool test result is suspicious when blood test result is negative. So how positive is your stool test? If it's borderline positive, then it's probably a false positive. You probably need to get the raw data from the laboratory.

So when did you catch H. pylori? most people caught it when they are very young, from their mother.
It's actually quite difficult for adults to catch H. pylori. Simply because of the good hygiene practice, especially oral cleansing.
If you and your partner brush your teeth daily at least once a day in the morning, your chance of passing it to each other is gonna be very very low.
H. pylori survive poorly outside human body, and it dies quickly if it touches spices like garlic, chili, pepper, honey, salt, etc.
So as you can see, it's also quite difficult for H. pylori to transmit via sharing food.

Nevertheless, given enough exposure through years of trying, or sharing food with a carrier. One would eventually catch it.

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Re: Helico bactery symptoms

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Helico_expert wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:01 am
Very interesting results.
The serology result probably means you had H. pylori before.
The stool test result is suspicious when blood test result is negative. So how positive is your stool test? If it's borderline positive, then it's probably a false positive. You probably need to get the raw data from the laboratory.

So when did you catch H. pylori? most people caught it when they are very young, from their mother.
It's actually quite difficult for adults to catch H. pylori. Simply because of the good hygiene practice, especially oral cleansing.
If you and your partner brush your teeth daily at least once a day in the morning, your chance of passing it to each other is gonna be very very low.
H. pylori survive poorly outside human body, and it dies quickly if it touches spices like garlic, chili, pepper, honey, salt, etc.
So as you can see, it's also quite difficult for H. pylori to transmit via sharing food.

Nevertheless, given enough exposure through years of trying, or sharing food with a carrier. One would eventually catch it.

I did blood test on 27. Oct, and value is 18.9 and boardline on test is 20-25

And in 9.Nov i did a stool test
And it came positive, they dont give detail results, just positive or negative for test

I saw on internet that blood test only shows us antibodies, not the infection we have at the moment

Even when i said to my doctor about blood test, he didnt care and he told me to do stool test, because i had all symptoms like it

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Re: Helico bactery symptoms

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yea, blood test only tells you if you had H. pylori before. It cannot tell you if you had H. pylori now.
if the blood test is negative, then it will mean you have no H. pylori now.
However, if you doctor thinks that the blood test is inaccurate, then he would order an alternative to disproof that.
A positive stool test result after a negative blood test result is interesting.

anyway, seems like you already had the treatment. how do you feel? do you feel better after treatment?

looking forward to hearing your follow up test and see if you are still positive of H. pylori.

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Re: Helico bactery symptoms

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Helico_expert wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:48 pm
yea, blood test only tells you if you had H. pylori before. It cannot tell you if you had H. pylori now.
if the blood test is negative, then it will mean you have no H. pylori now.
However, if you doctor thinks that the blood test is inaccurate, then he would order an alternative to disproof that.
A positive stool test result after a negative blood test result is interesting.

anyway, seems like you already had the treatment. how do you feel? do you feel better after treatment?

looking forward to hearing your follow up test and see if you are still positive of H. pylori.
I feel really good, my reflux and acid problems are low, only i have is a bit dull pain and burning under my ribs and a bit lower
, but only in the morning on emtpy stomach and night, when i eat something all symptoms get minimal or dont feel anything(is this cause of gastritis from hpylori that needs to heal) only burping and fatigues

I m on my 1 x ppi daily threapy atm, i did ultrasound of my abdominal, doctor says that he dont see anything

And one interesting thing, today i did a test for candida with glass of water and guess what, it shows like i have it, so i m waiting now for stool test to check it out


Hope my stomach will heal fast because its really annoying and it affects my life a bit

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